| Suddenly there 
              is an almighty BANG! accompanied by a huge cloud of smoke. As the 
              smoke clears you see Miko emerging from the chaos.Miko bows deeply.
 Miko says 'Good morning and welcome'
 Cerretano says 
              'Good morning'Mevman says 'Morning :)'
 Zeed says 'morning'
 Miko says 'let's 
              get straight to it then'Miko says 'we'll handle questions and answers first'
 Miko says 'then talk a little about next weekend'
 Miko smiles happily.
 Miko says 'please keep actions to a minimum'
 Miko says 'less spammy that way'
 Miko smiles happily.
 Miko says 'I have a list of questions submitted by Gaheris'
 Miko says 'so we'll intersperse those with any others that folks 
              might have'
 Cerretano beams 
              a smile at Gaheris.Larnine grins evilly at Gaheris.
 Gaheris blinks his eyes innocently.
 Piccolo chuckles politely.
 Miko says 'so 
              without further ado, I'll start with Gaheris' first question'Miko says 'Gaheris asked about spellbooks and prayerbooks'
 Miko says 'specifically, the situation about finding spellboks and 
              wanting to pass them onto others'
 Miko says 'and the fact that in the past this had been done by selling 
              them to the shops'
 Miko says 'but now that citizens are buying them, they don't hang 
              around long enough'
 Miko says 'was that a good enough summary Gaheris?'
 Gaheris nods. Tarl says 'my 
              thought on that is a public library or reading room'Miko pokes Tarl in the ribs.
 Tarl chuckles politely.
 Piccolo says 'perhaps make it so citizen can't buy them?'
 Miko says 'first 
              off, when the buying code was introduced I did consider not having 
              the citizens buy books'Miko says 'however, at that time there were about 500 books for 
              sale'
 Miko says 'so I wanted to drastically reduce that number'
 Miko says 'now, citizens will only buy tier 1, level 1 books'
 Miko says 'since those are the most common'
 Gaheris praises 
              Miko for his accomplishment.Mevman smiles happily.
 Cerretano smiles happily.
 Zeed smiles happily.
 Piccolo shows his approval by clapping his small hands together.
 Tjalve smiles happily.
 Miko says 'I 
              will tweak this further so that they only buy books when multiple 
              copies exist'Miko says 'does that sounds like a reasonable solution?'
 Tjalve nods.Gaheris says 'I am completely satisfied with this solution'
 Mevman nods.
 Piccolo says 'sounds good to me'
 Zeed nods.
 Miko smiles 
              happily.Miko says 'ok'
 Miko says 'anyone have a question/issue to raise? (please raise 
              your hand if so)'
 Mevman says 
              'on same subject?'Piccolo raises hand
 Miko says 'any 
              suject'Miko says 'Yes, Piccolo?'
 Piccolo says 
              'is the newbie shopping list bug problem fixed?' Miko says 'with 
              the extortionate gold prices? :)' Piccolo nods. Miko says 'yes 
              it is' Piccolo smiles 
              happily.Mevman raises his hand
 Miko says 'Mevman?' Mevman says 
              'does the money flow code need to be adjusted, the shops are out 
              of money lately, and a related questionn...whats up with Comstill 
              shop and quality?' Miko says 'I'll 
              answer the second part first'Miko says 'Comstil is rather picky about the kind of items they 
              purchase'
 Miko says 'they don't deal in trash'
 Miko says 'and you will find other shops begin to follow the same 
              path'
 Miko says 'but you will also begin to find other shops too :)'
 Miko says 'Ardenfall, for example, is a large city'
 Miko says 'as for the shops being out of money, we are trying to 
              emulate a true economy'
 Miko says 'the shops have expenses you know, rent, wages, taxes, 
              etc.'
 Gaheris raises 
              his hand for an additional comment on Comstil.Tarl says 'it seems to be hard to emulate that .. for when a shop 
              has money he is usualy overrun with purchases'
 Miko says 'Gaheris?' Gaheris says 
              'Does Comstil, Stonkeep, etc. consider the significant protection 
              ring mail to be "trash" ?' Miko says 'they 
              shouldn't'Miko says 'but some items still require adjusting in the database'
 Miko says 'please BUG any that you feel are being handled incorrectly'
 Miko says 'that means reading the item description first'
 Miko says 'there are 1108 different items in the database'
 Miko says 'it isn't a trivial thing to verify they are all correct'
 Gaheris says 
              'Okay. Sometimes Comstil seems ridiculously pikcy about genuinely 
              good items.' Mevman raises 
              his hand Miko says 'related 
              question Mevman?' Mevman says 
              'not related' Miko says 'ok, 
              let me do another pre-submitted question first'Miko says 'At issue: spell/prayer increases. '
 Miko says 'For the sake of argument, assume it takes 10 increaeses 
              to take a spell from '
 Miko says 'level 1 to level 2, and then 20 from level 2 to level 
              3. Suppose you know '
 Miko says ''strength' and have gained 9 inc's in it. You then find 
              a spellbook of level '
 Miko says '2 strength and read it. Do you carry over the 9 inc's 
              so that you need only '
 Miko says '(20 - 9 = ) 11 to reach level 3? Or do you reset to zero 
              so you need 20 '
 Miko says 'inc's to reach level 3?'
 Miko says 'I 
              am not going to specifically answer that question, but not because 
              I want to hide anything'Miko says 'simply, the code is somewhat complex, and as such there 
              is no "straight" answer'
 Miko says 'however, rest assured, that gained increases are not 
              lost'
 Miko says 'they are still important'
 Piccolo is confused.Artagel whispers: Miko doens't know himself.
 Cerretano falls down laughing.
 Miko chuckles politely.
 Piccolo chuckles politely.
 Larnine grins evilly at Artagel.
 Cerretano beams a smile at Artagel.
 Zeed nods.
 Miko says 'Like 
              I said, it's somewhat complex'Miko says 'what I don't want to do is give an answer one way or 
              the other, because sometimes the answer might change'
 Piccolo says 
              'ah. I see.'Dream says 'Or maybe it won't'
 Dream looks all mysterious and stuff.
 Miko says 'I 
              know that probably sounds confusing but the increase system isn't 
              a yes/no system'Miko says 'there are many factors involved'
 Miko says 'ok, next question, Mevman?'
 Larnine raises 
              his hand for a non-related question. Mevman says 
              'is there any workable system to help newbies out of jail when imps/immos 
              arent there or cant RP?' Larnine's question 
              is related now.Cerretano raises his hand.
 Piccolo says 'Was stuck in there for two days without anyone on. 
              :)'
 Cerretano comforts Piccolo.
 Miko says 'that's 
              a good question'Miko says 'the short answer is no'
 Miko says 'the long answer is no, but there are quite a few immortals 
              around now that should be able to handle this kind of situation'
 Miko says 'however, there will always be a time when there isn't 
              someone on'
 Miko says 'and harsh as though it may sound, if a newbie reads the 
              help files, and uses the "consider" command appopriately, 
              they shouldn't end up in jail in the first place'
 Mevman says 
              'nod, Ive adjusted my initial help speech to include the con command 
              first thing.' Larnine raises 
              his hand. Miko says 'as 
              for newbies, a suggestion was made that newbies should not get arrested'Miko says 'I strongly disagree with that'
 Miko says 'again, harsh as it may sound, newbies need to learn right 
              away what is smart and what isn't'
 Cerretano raises 
              his hand and waves it about.Larnine says 'but on that subject.....'
 Tjalve raises his hand on the problem with no immoes on.
 Tarl says 'i agree... i think it should be up to the vetran players 
              to help out more and keep them out of the clink'
 Miko says 'that 
              isn't to say that there aren't things we can do to try and avoid 
              the situation'Miko says 'I'll take comments now, starting with Larnine'
 Cerretano nods. Larnine says 
              'The amount of newbies that have gone LD in jail recently is rising 
              though, and recently, the mort numbers have been lower than usual 
              for some reason.'Larnine says 'Withot help, mostnwebies just go and get on with it, 
              without reading many help files.'
 Miko nods.Gaheris raises his hand for a comment on Larnine's help-file comment.
 Larnine says 
              'And that is a problem'Larnine says 'I have seen loads LD in jail now.'
 Larnine says 'And It's a shame. Could have been a cuople of good 
              players out of those.'
 Tarl says 'comment:'Tarl says 'how active a roll do you all play in trying to keep them 
              out of jail?'
 Mevman says 
              'me very much so'Larnine peers intently at Tarl.
 Cerretano says 'Are you accusing us of not helping newbies?'
 Tarl says 'no... 
              just asking' Miko says 'We 
              have an immortal that is working on some kind of automated introduction 
              system'Miko says 'this may involve a series of rooms (rather like an, ick, 
              Mud school)'
 Larnine says 
              'cool.'Larnine grins evilly at Miko.
 Piccolo says 'That might be helpfull.'
 Miko says 'prior 
              to the newbie entering ardenfall'Miko says 'just to make sure the most important factors can be gotten 
              across to the new folks'
 Larnine says 
              'I have seen something similar, and it does help you get accustomed 
              to the Mud's ways.'Larnine nods at Miko.
 Miko says 'Tjalve, 
              you had a comment?' Tjalve says 
              'There is allwayes the posibility to email the situation to the 
              admin.' Mevman says 
              'how often does admin check mail?' Miko nods at 
              Tjalve.Miko chuckles politely.
 Miko says 'frequently ;)'
 Miko says 'admin mail is forwarded to all admin folks'
 Miko says 'so the answer in my case is dozens of times a day'
 Miko says 'Gaheris, a comment?'
 Gaheris says 
              'I have heard a couple of newbies say that the help files were "too 
              long" to read'Gaheris says 'Personally I don't have much sympathy for that complaint, 
              but there it is.'
 Miko nods.Miko says 'which is one of the reasons we're doing the introductory 
              stuff'
 Miko says 'so the help files can be used as a reference tool'
 Miko says 'rather than the only method of learning'
 Larnine says 
              'Compared to some Mud's, our help files are pretty short and direct 
              to the point =)'Piccolo says 'actually the help files here are smaller than on most 
              muds..'
 Miko grins evilly.Cerretano giggles.
 Larnine nods at Piccolo.
 Tarl says 'i 
              have noticed that muding is not for everyone and no matter what 
              you do you cant keep them here or out of jail because they either 
              just dont get the concept or dont want to get it. but kindness goes 
              along way' Miko nods at 
              Tarl.Miko says 'any other comments on this issue?'
 Miko says 'ok, any new issue?'
 Miko says 'ok, I'll move to another of Gaheris' pre-submitted questions'
 Miko says 'I would like to know how magic resistance / saving throws 
              work. '
 Miko says 'Furthermore what is the difference between "resist 
              XXX" and "protection from '
 Miko says 'XXX"?'
 Miko says 'ok, first part of the question'
 Miko says 'resistances work as you would expect'
 Miko says 'you have 10% resistance to fire, you only take 90% damage 
              from fire-based attacks'
 Gaheris says 
              'Heh, that is not how I expected it to work :)' Miko says 'as 
              far as saving-throws go, your resistance is stacked up against the 
              power of the attack'Miko says 'so a low resistance can still be a very effective saving 
              throw if the power of the attack is also low'
 Miko says 'now, protection vs resist'
 Gaheris says 
              'wait' Miko says 'yes?' Gaheris says 
              'So a saving throw also reduces damage - does not give you a chance 
              to avoid ALL damage?' Miko says 'that 
              depends on the magic'Miko says 'sometimes it gives a chance to avoid, sometimes it simply 
              reduces the damage'
 Miko says 'other times it gives a chance to avoid and also reduces 
              the damage (assuming you dont avoid)'
 Gaheris says 
              'okay' Miko says 'ok, 
              protection vs resist'Miko says 'resist should now be obvious'
 Miko says 'protection will protect you from a certain amount of 
              damage, then the spell will "break"'
 Miko says '(assuming the spell doesn't expire first)'
 Miko says 'hence protection from poison wont stop you from being 
              poisoned, but it will absorb the damage from poison once you are 
              poisoned'
 Mevman says 
              'ahh'Gaheris says 'So if you have both resist X and protection from X 
              going, that is actually useful?'
 Miko nods at 
              Gaheris. Gaheris says 
              'will resist poison stop you from being poisoned? (or is there a 
              chance it might)' Miko nods.Miko says 'resist poison will act as a saving throw as well as reducing 
              damage'
 Miko says 'good example'
 Gaheris *thinks* 
              he understands. Miko says 'a 
              followup type of question from Gaheris:'Miko says 'On a side note, what is the difference between "resist 
              HEAT" and "resist '
 Miko says 'FIRE"? Those seem very similar.'
 Cerretano nods.Tjalve says 'and slow poison?'
 Miko says 'and 
              the answer is simple; if it's a fire-based spell, resist fire is 
              appropriate'Miko says 'if it's a heat-based spell, resist heat is appropriate'
 Cerretano chuckles 
              politely.Cerretano chuckles politely.
 Gaheris says 'What is an example of a heat-based spell?'
 Miko says 'plasma 
              bolt' Mevman says 
              'heat like around thalos?'Cerretano nods at Gaheris.
 Miko nods at 
              Mevman.Miko says 'that too'
 Miko gives Mevman a round of applause.
 Gaheris says 
              'Is there an equivalent distinction between, umm, "cold" 
              and "frost" or something like that?' Miko says 'cold 
              and water?'Miko says 'cold and water should be fairly obvious in most cases'
 Miko says 'cone of cold is obviously cold'
 Miko says 'boiling globe is water'
 Miko says 'the issue is the "frost" spells I guess'
 Zeed raises 
              his handCerretano raises his hand.
 Gaheris also raises his hand for a follow-up question.
 Miko says 'the 
              best way is to consider if the spell saps energy (similar, but not 
              the same as, draining)'Miko says 'such as frost touch'
 Miko says 'or if the spell is blasting you with ice-cold solidified 
              water, eg, ice storm'
 Miko says 'yes Zeed?'
 Zeed says 'thanks'Zeed says 'it is confusing sometimes as to what damage spells do'
 Zeed says 'for 
              instance (another) jet of steam'Zeed says 'heat and water?'
 Miko shakes 
              his head.Miko giggles.
 Miko says 'air'
 Cerretano throws 
              back his head and cackles with insane glee!Mevman grins evilly.
 Tarl says 'this is why i was never a spell caster :)'
 Sloth raises his hand on subject.
 Zeed says 'would 
              it be possible to display the damage type (as ew do the school) 
              when you have a spell?'Zeed says 'would remove the confusion...thanks'
 Gaheris says 'or perhaps include the damage type in the help file 
              at least'
 Miko sinks deeply 
              into his own thoughts.Miko says 'I'll think about it'
 Miko says 'I think the answer is probably yes'
 Miko says 'Cerretano?'
 Cerretano says 
              'Well, mine was more specific, going back to a particular spell 
              for clarification'Cerretano says 'Ice Storm is cold, or water? And why?'
 Cerretano says 'Seems like cold water'
 Miko nods.Miko says 'yes, but ice storm's power is not from the coldness of 
              the ice'
 Miko says 'its from the force of the ice'
 Miko says 'and since ice is solidified water, it's a water spell'
 Larnine says 
              'Fireball = heat and fire. Both would do damage, right?'Larnine says 'heat would melt you, fire would burn.'
 Miko says 'Fireball 
              is fire'Miko says 'remember, it isn't "true fire" it's "magical 
              fire"'
 Cerretano says 
              'Okay, following that, then...'Cerretano says 'Ice storm makes you cold, but does not get you wet'
 Cerretano chuckles politely.
 Miko says 'Ice 
              storm doesn't make you cold'Miko says 'it pelts you with chunks of ice'
 Mevman says 
              'more like striking damage'Cerretano says 'Have you ever stood in a hailstorm? You get cold, 
              trust me :)'
 Cerretano says 'Anyhow, I am but a warrior, with no need for such 
              foolishness'
 Cerretano flexes his muscles.
 Dream says 'Here's 
              an idea.'Dream says 'It is well known that we aren't going to reveal all 
              the hidden aspects to you. Furthermore, not all aspects are neccessarily 
              set in stone.'
 Dream says 'Instead of asking us for how it works, why don't a group 
              of spell casters get together, in the game, and formualte theories 
              on how magic works?'
 Dream says 'Maybe in conjunction with the schola of magic here in 
              the city?'
 Gaheris is strongly 
              in favor of specifying the type of damage in the help file. Miko nods.Miko says 'Sloth, a comment?'
 Sloth says 'Was 
              thinkin' along the same line as Gaheris, ie add it to the help-file: 
              ELEMENT: FIRE-BASED' Miko nods.Miko says 'I'll take that under consideration'
 Zeed raises 
              his hand on this comment Miko says 'yes 
              Zeed?' Zeed says 'i 
              understand that some aspects should remain secret but seems to me 
              that is a mage is able to cast a spell they would also know what 
              type of damage it will do'Zeed says 'that was all'
 Zeed thanks Miko heartily.
 Miko nods.Miko says 'that does seem to make a lot of sense'
 Miko says 'any other comments on this subject?'
 Miko says 'ok, any other issues?'
 Gaheris raises 
              his hand. Miko says 'yes?' Gaheris says 
              'It seems that the game is becoming increasingly difficult, especially 
              with the introduction of nasty new abilities like strangle and stun. 
              Are you perhaps inadvertently making things too hard on new players?' Miko says 'strangle 
              isn't new (fyi)' Gaheris says 
              'Oh? Then what have the duergar been doing to us? :)' Miko says 'other 
              mobs strangle'Miko says 'and have for a while'
 Miko says 'as anyone who has dealt with the thieving b*stards in 
              Orc Mountain will attest to'
 Zeed nods.Tjalve nods.
 Sloth says 'Clan members in the Goldmine of instance.'
 Dream says 'Or any thief NPC with no weapon.'
 Tarl was choked to death by a miner :)
 Diggory says 'You shouldn't be in the mines by yourself, Gaheris. 
              it's not child's play.'
 Miko says 'but 
              I'm not sure I understand what you mean about making things more 
              difficult for newbies' Gaheris says 
              'I realize that there are dangerous areas, but it seems that some 
              once not-so-bad areas have become ridiculously hard. e.g., the Black 
              Orcs' Larnine says 
              'Cannot have everything easy.'Gaheris nods at Larnine.
 Miko says 'err, 
              well one would hope that Newbies don't visit the black orcs' Tarl says 'black 
              orcs are a threat to experienced players/groups due to sheer numbers'Diggory says 'That's what grouping is for, people.'
 Dream says 'Might I interject?'
 Gaheris says 
              'My only comment is this, then: just make sure not to make the game 
              so hard that is frustrates the players (newbie and veteran alike) 
              instead of challenging them.' Miko nods at 
              Gaheris.Miko says 'I tried to be selective in how the warrior mobs used 
              stunn'
 Miko assumes that this is all about stun
 Dream says 'I 
              seem to recall people..."complaining" a few weeks or months 
              back about how there were not enough hard areas to get good treasure 
              in.'Dream says 'Are we now saying the reverse?'
 Zeed shakes 
              his head.Gaheris says 'Dream, no, we are just saying not to go overboard 
              in responding to our complaints. :)'
 Miko grins evilly.Miko says 'I'll look at the black orcs'
 Tarl says 'black orcs are not for the meek. I particurly like that 
              area'
 Larnine says 'There are challenging Area's, but some warriors don't 
              like to go there as it's too 'tough'. *peers @ Gah* Kelt-Wyn anyone?'
 Gaheris says 'Larn: that was a while ago, also when armour was getting 
              damaged a bit too much.'
 Zeed smiles 
              happily.Genshu raises his hand
 Miko says 'yes 
              Genshu?' Genshu says 
              'when will I get to use these new skills? and get my old ones back?'Miko says 'which skills did you "lose" ?'
 Genshu says 
              'polearms, hammer throwing etc' Miko says 'ah'Miko says 'the throwing skills are now directly linked to the true 
              weapon skill'
 Miko says 'ie, you can't learn hammer throwing until you have gotten 
              hammers to a certain point'
 Miko says 'that point isn't aprticularly high, btw'
 Miko says 'polearms requires learning other skills first'
 Genshu says 
              'ahh'Genshu nods.
 Tjalve nods.
 Gaheris raises his hand on this topic.
 Miko says 'you 
              may find that one weapon skill icnreases triggers the pole arm skill'Miko says 'as for the new skills, they all require knowledge in 
              other skills to reach a certain level'
 Miko says 'some of you are at that level, but woll require a single 
              increase to trigger them'
 Miko says 'that is due to how the code works, and is an unfortunate 
              side effect for current folks, but since you didn't have them even 
              available until this week, I wouldn't whine about that TOO loudly 
              ;-)'
 Miko grins evilly.
 Genshu nods.Genshu says 'ok thanks'
 Genshu grins evilly.
 Miko says 'yes 
              Gaheris?' Gaheris says 
              'Would it be possible to indicate in the help files which other 
              skills trigger the new skills (hitall, stun, berserk) -or- use the 
              warrior's guild to indicate this thru an automated RP-ish system?' Miko says 'I 
              think that's a fair comment'Miko says 'maybe somethign the guild can talk about'
 Mevman raises 
              his hand with a new question Miko says 'ok, 
              moving on'Miko says 'Mevman?'
 Mevman says 
              'is there any plus con eq in the game, and is there/will there be 
              a summon command for a cleric' Cerretano raises 
              his hand regarding summon. Miko says 'yes 
              to the first question'Miko says '"dont know" to the second'
 Mevman nods.Mevman smiles happily.
 Zeed nods.
 Dream raises his hand.
 Miko says 'let 
              me explain briefly why the "don't know"'Miko says 'we would like the concept of "trading" to become 
              a way for players to make money'
 Miko says 'ie, purchasing things from one city and hen going to 
              another to sell them'
 Miko says 'that becomes rather pointless if clerics can summon folks 
              halfway around the world'
 Tjalve nods.Zeed nods.
 Zeed thinks this a good idea...realistic
 Mevman says 'IC'
 Larnine says 'may I comment?'
 Tarl raises his hand to comment
 Sloth would also like to comment.
 Miko says 'Cerretano, 
              a comment?' Cerretano nods.Cerretano says 'Thank you'
 Cerretano says 'I have heard people complain that the world is too 
              small'
 Cerretano says 'Summon only makes it feel smaller'
 Cerretano says 'It makes travel a trivial thing'
 Cerretano says 'Uprooting yourself and going to a distant city should 
              be a journey'
 Cerretano says 'That's all. Thanks'
 Miko nods.Miko says 'true'
 Diggory says 
              'and if you have a complaint that the world is too small, build 
              an area.' Mevman doesnt 
              disagreeCerretano smiles happily.
 Gaheris would like to comment as well.
 Miko grins evilly 
              at Diggory.Miko says 'Larnine?'
 Larnine says 
              'Summon was a great tool for assisting in grouping which is highly 
              encouraged here. It was a great tool for getting assistance and 
              forming bigger groups'Larnine says 'Also....'
 Larnine says 'The gate spell. What would be the difference? Town 
              to town with that also.'
 Sloth would 
              not like to comment anymore. Miko says 'ah 
              yes, gate'Miko says 'Gate is a tier 8 spell'
 Miko says 'in a school that conflicts with Evocation, the primary 
              source of a mage's offensive spells'
 Miko says 'any mage willing to sacrifice 90% of his/her offensive 
              spells is welcome to use gate howevfer they see fit'
 Mevman grins 
              evilly.Sloth will.
 Miko says 'one 
              assumes the mage will charge heavily for its use'Miko grins evilly.
 Gaheris has 
              multiple comments now. Larnine says 
              'So if that's the sacrifice for a mage to get it, why not add summon 
              with the same sacrifices?'Larnine is cleric biased =P
 Cerretano grins evilly.
 Miko says 'I 
              think the summon issue falls in two categories'Miko says 'summoning people back to corpses is one'
 Miko says 'I think that can be resolved with a different spell'
 Miko says 'and summoning people for grouping'
 Miko says 'the latter needs thought'
 Miko says 'I have no simple answer, sorry'
 Larnine nods 
              at Miko.Mevman nods.
 Miko says 'Tarl?' Tarl says 'ok...'Tarl says 'I think summoning HAD its day in the realm.. I think 
              a transport corpse spell is in order for corpse retrival. I also 
              think that a quicker means of travel should be imped a less taxing 
              travel such as horesback or somthing to that effect'
 Miko nods.Miko says 'horses will be introduced once the size of the world 
              merits it'
 Dream says 'I 
              am of the opinion that since a party can travel from Ard to DH virtually 
              without stopping, that perhaps travel is too easy already.' Cerretano nods 
              at Dream.Zeed smiles happily.
 Larnine says 'They cannot, Dream.'
 Larnine says 'Stamina gets sucked up badly nowadays =('
 Tarl says 'with wind they can'
 Larnine says 'Except second wind, yes.'
 Tjalve says 'or azures'
 Miko says 'Gaheris, 
              you had a comment?' Gaheris says 
              'Well, to put it simply, there are some powerful spells in the realm: 
              second wind, summon, gate (eventually)'Gaheris says 'These spells can and will be used to the maximum extent 
              by clever players - that is what clever players do, find the best 
              way to exploit game conditions'
 Gaheris says 'You cannot punish the players for doing this, as long 
              as they are not cheating'
 Gaheris says 'If a cleric really wants to use summon to set up a 
              trading empire (by summoning someone with items to sell), why can't 
              he?'
 Larnine nods 
              at Gaheris. Miko says 'because 
              cleric's usually don't run trading empires?' Larnine giggles.Cerretano giggles.
 Gaheris shrugs helplessly.
 Miko says 'they 
              tend to have more important things to do, as their deity dictates'Miko says 'that's not to say they can't'
 Zeed raises 
              his handGaheris says 'My feeling is that spells like second wind, word of 
              recall (and scrolls of recall), and summon are essential clerical 
              spells'
 Miko says 'but 
              99% of the time it would fly in the face of their religion'Miko says 'I would say yes to summon in the case of repatriating 
              a player with their corpse'
 Miko says 'but that can be accomplished without summon'
 Zeed puts his 
              hand down Dream says 'I 
              agree, Gah'Dream says 'A player should be free to use everything in the game 
              to do whatever they wish, so long as they are not told it is against 
              the rules'
 Dream says 'Our goal is to set what IS in the game with that in 
              mind, and thus limit what can be done to what we feel SHOULD be 
              done.'
 Dream says 'Not put summon in the game, and then say "Oh, your 
              cleric wouldn't use it to make a trading empire"'
 Tarl says 'a 
              transport corpes spell would work.. the player then would be fully 
              equiped to travel back to his/her group and continue on the journey'Tjalve thinks of the crusaders.
 Mevman says 
              'summon spirit or something..' Miko says 'this 
              is obviously not a simple issue'Miko says 'for the reasons laid out'
 Gaheris says 
              'I guess what I -don't- want to see happen is that clever applications 
              of spells and abilities get banned because they don't fit the immo's 
              idea of the MUD' Miko nods.Miko says 'and we try not to do that'
 Dream says 'EXACTLY'Dream says 'So we don't put them into the game until we are sure 
              they don't violate our concepts'
 Miko says 'if 
              we find people using magic in a way that wasn't intended, we tend 
              to change things like a mob's reaction to that magic ;)' Dream nods at 
              Miko.Dream says 'I am glad to see we agree on this, Gah ;)'
 Tarl says 'even 
              society has rules. and if you break them you are punished'Tarl says 'you are capable of driving at 100 mph but you will get 
              arrested'
 Miko says 'we 
              have considered limiting summon by distance'Miko says 'but that isnt' so easy when you consider underground 
              areas'
 Gaheris says 
              'Perhaps the best solution is an RP one, e.g. Comstil and Velani 
              might be quite upset by a cleric using summont to cut into their 
              profits...' Dream says 'You 
              just contradicted yourself, Gah'Dream says 'That would be making it so that players are basically 
              being told they shouldn't use something that is in the game.'
 Miko says 'very 
              true'Miko says 'but then some players will get might upset when we take 
              those steps'
 Mevman thinks 
              he stirred up a bit of an ants nest *G* Miko giggles.Miko says 'it isn't a simple solution'
 Miko says 'hence why summon isn't currently in the game'
 Mevman nods.Dream nods at Miko.
 Gaheris says 
              'Dream: no, what I am against is a hard-coded ban on summon.' Tarl says 'they 
              will only be upset if dream is the one to RP the senario :)' Dream says 'But 
              there is no summon'Dream says 'And thus, no hard-coded ban to summon'
 Gaheris rolls 
              his eyes.Gaheris says 'second wind then'
 Larnine says 
              'They're completely different in class.'Dream says 'Same concept though'
 Miko says 'second 
              wind is acceptable'Miko says 'it gives a second wind, not a full restore of stamina'
 Dream says 'Second 
              wind has the same effect on a smaller scale.' Gaheris says 
              'Do you accept the fact that it is in the players' interest to travel 
              from place to place as quickly and efficiently as possible?' Tjalve says 
              'you can do the exact same thing as second wind with a lot of azure 
              potions.' Dream says 'nope' Gaheris throws 
              back his head and cackles with insane glee! Dream says 'I 
              think half the fun of a journey is in getting there.' Miko says 'I 
              think it depends on the situation'Miko says 'if travelling "from place to place as quickly and 
              efficiently as possible" means running to Thalos to make some 
              cash, then no I don't'
 Gaheris raises 
              his hand with a comment on making cash. Larnine says 
              'Second wind is already in and works well. imho' Tarl says 'maybe 
              summon/wind should have a costly effect to make it not cost efective 
              to use for trading purpose. if the ROI is not there then it wont 
              be abused' Miko says 'Tarl 
              raises an excellent point'Miko says 'the question becomes what cost is high enough, but not 
              too high'
 Miko says 'I know this is contentious but lets move on'
 Miko says 'Gaheris, a comment on cash?'
 Tarl nods at 
              Miko.Zeed thinks that is a question that would require an armchair and 
              a few bottles of wine
 Gaheris says 
              'Unless you eliminate money, players will always figure out a way 
              to make cash.'Gaheris says 'It is, after all, part of the game.'
 Gaheris says 'Killing Lamias is not easy per se.'
 Tjalve nods 
              at Gaheris. Miko says 'making 
              cash is a way of life'Miko says 'but we don't want to make it too easy'
 Miko says 'because that introduces rampant inflation in the game'
 Dream nods.Dream says 'I think it is more base than that though, Miko'
 Dream says 'I cannot speak for the whole staff, but when you hear 
              me saying something like "We don't want to make it too easy."'
 Dream says 'It is not because I am out to make the player's lives 
              hell ;)'
 Dream says 'Well, not TOO much'
 Zeed grins evilly 
              at Dream.Tjalve chuckles politely.
 Dream says 'But 
              rather it has been my long experience that people become quickly 
              bored when things come too easily.'Dream says 'They also become frustrated when things come too hard'
 Dream says 'Which is a fine line to walk.'
 Zeed nods.Zeed says 'or progress slow'
 Gaheris would like to comment on Dream's issue.
 Tarl says 'miko, 
              has the barter system been kicked around at all? trading quanity 
              of less expensive items for a more expensive items eliminating some 
              of the use of cash?' Dream says 'Our 
              constant tinkering with cash is part of that larger issue.'Dream says 'If cash, and thus magic, weapons and armour (all purchasable) 
              are too plentiful'
 Dream says 'The game becomes too easy'
 Dream says 'If cash is too hard to get, it becomes too hard'
 Zeed nods.Zeed says 'and ppl would lose interest'
 Mevman says 
              'a economy is is hellishly complex'Tjalve smiles happily.
 Zeed says 'economies have good and bad times ...maybe thats a solution'
 Dream says 'Our 
              whole main goal is not to create a true and actual economy'Dream says 'But rather to simulate one somewhat. Enough so that 
              we can have a balanced flow of moneys and thus magic, eq and fun'
 Dream says 'Now, what complicates it is the fact that you all have 
              a source of income a good deal different than most economies'
 Dream says 'That is, sanctioned murder and pillaging.'
 Dream says 'On a scale never seen in a real world economy'
 Cerretano nods.Tarl says 'dream, its a living :)'
 Dream says 'And 
              one that is hard to estimate.'Dream nods at Tarl.
 Dream says 'Which is why we are still tinkering'
 Dream says 'If you didn't have that, it would be much easier'
 Dream says 'We'd give you all jobs, with fixed incomes, and that 
              would be that ;)'
 Gaheris says 
              'Dream: actually privateers were eseentially sanctioned pirates 
              and pillagers.' Dream says 'Yes, 
              but not every person was a privateer in, say, Britain.'Dream says 'Everyone here is.'
 Gaheris says 
              'True.'Zeed nods.
 Genshu has an idea
 Dream says 'And 
              booty is FAR more available in this world than it was for privateers'Dream says 'Not only is is available'
 Dream says 'But it constantly replenishes and is mystically in the 
              same places.'
 Dream says 'It complicates matters ;)'
 Genshu says 
              'well I've played another mud which you could deliver packages for 
              money, could you consider that?'Genshu says 'at least for newbies?'
 Larnine says 
              'I've seen that also.'Larnine says 'helps people explore the world also.'
 Zeed nods.
 Zeed says 'help them learn the world'
 Dream says 'CPS?'Dream says 'Comstil Parcel Service?'
 Genshu nods.Genshu says 'I learned a lot out of that'
 Genshu says 'and it could only be open at certin hours so it still 
              isn't so easy to make money'
 Dream says 'It 
              is an idea' Gaheris has 
              a very basic comment when there is a lull. Dream says 'We 
              could use a mob like the paymaster here.'Dream pats the narrow, beady-eyed man on his head.
 Dream says 'So that more or less explains things like why we don't 
              just drop summon back in, or give all mobs 40 gold.'
 Miko says 'ok, 
              a comment Gaheris?' Gaheris says 
              'There are a variety of reasons people play a MUD. Sometimes it 
              is to be challenged, and frankly sometimes it is just to hack'n'slash 
              Lamias for a while. I don't think you should take away that second 
              aspect of playing.'Gaheris says 'People like to blow off steam by slaughtering mobs.'
 Larnine nods.Zeed grins evilly.
 Cerretano says 'Hrmmmm'
 Miko says 'I 
              agree; but if that's all someone is interested in, this might not 
              be the place for them to play' Cerretano nods.Larnine is glad Gaheris discovered the internet and MUD's or there 
              could have been a rampant sword attack killer in his town.
 Cerretano grins evilly at Larnine.
 Dream giggles.
 Gaheris says 
              'In the past, Alex has always had a good blend between RP and hack'n'slash.' Miko says 'on 
              the other hand, we certainly try and provide a playable atmosphere'Miko says 'we dont enforce roleplay; we reward it'
 Miko says 'let me ask you this'
 Miko says 'would you rather us implement everything, then act like 
              powermad immos when we see things we dont like, or be more selective 
              in what we implement?'
 Gaheris says 
              'Miko: obviously the latter.' Miko nods.Miko says 'you will also notice that I do respond to, and implement, 
              good ideas and suggestions'
 Gaheris says 
              'Yes, this is the most responsive MUD I have ever seen. *praise*'Larnine nods at Miko.
 Zeed raises his hand
 Miko says 'I 
              wont implement something that I know can have repercussions until 
              I've solved those problems'Miko says 'yes Zeed?'
 Zeed beams a 
              smile at Miko.Zeed says 'in the view of more realism'
 Zeed says 'would it be possible to have places ....like safes to 
              store eq or money ...or both'
 Zeed says 'or is this against game play?'
 Miko says 'I'm 
              not sure safes are necessarily realistic in this environment' Tjalve says 
              'What about private houses where highlevel chars could rent at a 
              high price and store a limitid number of extra item?'Cerretano nods at Tjalve.
 Larnine says 'problem is Thieves.'
 Cerretano says 'It's a risk you take :)'
 Larnine says 'You lock yuo stuff up. A clever theif comes along 
              and steals it all'
 Larnine says 'And then you get pissy and annoyed'
 Miko says 'houses/apartments 
              have been considered, and yes, Larnine is exactly right' Zeed nods.Dream says 'And not just NPC thieves ;0)'
 Larnine grins evilly at Dream.
 Dream says 'PC thieves should also be able to steal from there.'
 Tarl says 'but that is a risk in RL as well'
 Miko says 'what 
              happens when that last fireball you took destroys your key?' Larnine nods 
              at Miko. Miko says 'ok, 
              I want to move on' Tjalve nods 
              at Tarl.Cerretano thanks Miko heartily.
 Zeed nods.
 Miko says 'Gaheris 
              had 3 other submitted questions; I will not raise 2 of them here 
              since they're more ideas rather than issues'Miko says 'he did ask about how important "significant protection 
              wristguards" were'
 Miko says 'every attack lands in a place on the body (you just dont 
              see messages to that effect)'
 Miko says '(the reason you dont see meessages is because purple 
              worms really dont have feet)'
 Miko says 'if the blow lands in a place you have armour, the damage 
              from the blow is reduced by that armour'
 Miko says 'so yes, wristguards are important'
 Miko says 'rings obviously aren't (in this example)'
 Miko says 'we 
              don't differentiate between fingers and hands' Miko says 'as 
              to real ac (ie, a chain mail shirt) and magical ac (like the ornate 
              bronze ring)'Miko says 'the former protects a single location'
 Miko says 'the latter protects everything'
 Miko says 'hence why the latter is (a) rare, and (b) expensive'
 Zeed nods. Gaheris says 
              'Can we assume that blows are more likely to land in certain areas, 
              e.g. torso, than others, e.g. wrists ?' Miko says 'yes 
              you can'Miko says 'the chance per location is based upon size of the locaton'
 Miko says 'so the biggest chance is on the body of course'
 Miko says 'oh, there is also a chance it lands "nowhere in 
              particular"'
 Miko says 'that handles things like cracks in the armour polating,e 
              tc.'
 Miko says 'the gaps between your leg plates and boots, etc.'
 Miko says 'ok'
 Miko says 'any other issues?'
 Tarl says 'is 
              anyone area of the body more life threataning than another?' Miko says 'not 
              at the moment'Miko grins evilly.
 Tarl nods at 
              Miko. Dream says 'That's 
              a great idea, Tarl!'Dream says 'Thanks!'
 Tarl chuckles 
              politely.Tarl says '2 in one day... I am at an all time personal best :)'
 Miko says 'ok'Miko says 'let's talk about next weekend'
 Miko says 'As you know, Alex is 10 next week'
 Miko gives a round of applause.
 Cerretano cheers 
              wildly.Mevman smiles happily.
 Tarl shows his approval by clapping his small hands together.
 Larnine nods.
 Tjalve smiles happily.
 Zeed smiles happily.
 Miko says 'we've 
              had a good number of folks log on because of this'Miko says 'and a number of oldies say they'll be around next weekend'
 Miko says 'of course if they actually show is another matter'
 Miko says 'anyway, we will be planning some fun things for the weekend'
 Miko says 'there will no doubt be scavenger hunts'
 Miko says 'and free t-shirts :)'
 Artagel bounces 
              around.Mevman drools down his front.
 Zeed chuckles politely.
 Cerretano smiles happily.
 Zeed smiles happily.
 Tarl chuckles politely.
 Miko says 'I 
              am also considering opening the Ardenfall Arena next weekend' Larnine says 
              'ahh'Zeed says 'ooooo'
 Diggory chuckles politely.
 Cerretano smiles happily.
 Mevman says 'a new area?'
 Genshu grins evilly.
 Miko says 'a 
              place where PCs can hold tournaments'Miko says 'those who have played other MUds know what I'm referring 
              to'
 Larnine says 
              'Where we get to PK eachother?'Dream says 'DEATHMATCH!'
 Genshu licks his lips and smiles.
 Larnine throws back his head and cackles with insane glee!
 Larnine nods.
 Mevman smiles happily.
 Dream says 'The 
              winner fights me and my trusty hammer'Tarl says 'thats what i'm talking about'
 Diggory says 'ooh goodie!'
 Zeed says 'with 
              or without con loss chace?'Larnine giggles at Zeed's silly antics.
 Zeed says 'plz'
 Larnine says 'Wuss'
 Zeed pouts.
 Miko says 'there 
              will be no death' Zeed smiles 
              happily.Cerretano smiles happily.
 Tarl says 'score?'
 Miko says 'the 
              usual "getting whisked away" once you "die" 
              situation' Zeed smiles 
              happily.Zeed says 'sounds fun 8*)'
 Tjalve smiles happily.
 Larnine says 'Should put everyone in there adn fight it out all 
              at the same time. Little like that wrestling thing.'
 Cerretano grins evilly at Larnine.
 Gaheris says 'we could have tag-team events :)'
 Tarl says 'will 
              ghosts be able to walk about for the celebration?' Miko says 'I'm 
              not sure'Miko says 'the ghost code would need some adjusting'
 Cerretano raises 
              his hand. Miko says 'yes 
              Cerretano?' Cerretano says 
              'I think they should make mortals, so that they're encouraged to 
              stick around' Larnine nods.Larnine says 'Agreed.'
 Miko grins evilly.
 Cerretano says 
              'And so they don't think it's more than just a one-time deal :)' Tjalve nods 
              at Cerretano.Tarl says 'this was more directed to old timers'
 Cerretano says 
              'so?' Larnine says 
              'Is directed at everyone, just trying to encourage some of the oldies 
              back.'Larnine says 'and encourage newbies.'
 Cerretano says 
              'However, I will say that having old timers make new players makes 
              it difficult for everyone to know who's who'Cerretano says 'But I think they'll work it out.'
 Miko says 'ghosts 
              can be turned into mortals rather easily' Gaheris says 
              'If the old timers use the same name as before, what's the problem?' Cerretano says 
              'Well, they can't do that without having their ghosts deleted. Right?'Cerretano says 'Most wouldn't want that :)'
 Mevman nods 
              at Cerretano.Mevman says 'Mevos wouldnt like to be a mort again, he's comfortable 
              in his old age.'
 Tarl says 'that 
              would be nice for the old timers to get to interact and see old 
              friends again' Miko nods at 
              Tarl.Larnine says 'or you could make all ghosts Mortals. =)'
 Cerretano says 
              'I was envisioning it as .. well, part of the time they are just 
              socialising as ghosts, in the ghost world'Cerretano says 'And the other part of the time, they're playing 
              or questing or participating, etc'
 Larnine says 
              'if you make them all morts again, then it may encourage them to 
              mort and play again, whilst they still retain the same char name 
              etc,' Miko says 'we'll 
              see' Cerretano says 
              'But if you logged him on, and told all your old friends 'Hey, look 
              for Mevman'...'Cerretano says 'At least they'd know who you were (it's pretty apparenty, 
              anyway, in your case) :)'
 Mevman nods 
              at Cerretano. Tarl says 'i 
              am sure the ALEX Allumni would want to be able to have a nice revisit 
              but not all will want to play again' Cerretano nods.Cerretano says 'not even for a weekend?'
 Mevman says 
              'exactly'Mevman says 'no use forcing it down someones throat.'
 Larnine says 
              'No one's making them play, half morts sit around the fountain half 
              the time anyway' Miko says 'true'Miko says 'ghosts can be temporarily made mortal again'
 Miko smiles happily.
 Larnine says 
              'That would be good.' Mevman smiles 
              happily.Mevman says 'put a glow on them or something..'
 Miko says 'ok, 
              anything else?' Larnine says 
              'not I.'Zeed shakes his head.
 Mevman shakes his head.
 Tjalve shakes his head.
 Gaheris shakes his head.
 Cerretano shakes his head.
 Genshu shakes his head.
 Miko says 'ok, 
              a quick word about areas'Miko says 'obviously we added a farily significant set of areas 
              this past weekend'
 Miko says 'good to see you all enjoying them (and dying frequently)'
 Miko has a weird grin on his face.
 Cerretano grins 
              evilly.Genshu grins evilly.
 Zeed chuckles politely.
 Tjalve hums innocently.
 Mevman mutters something under his breath.
 Diggory licks his lips and smile.
 Miko says 'we 
              will reboot shortly to add another set'Miko says 'and during the course of next week, we'll see some more'
 Tjalve smiles 
              happily.Mevman shows his approval by clapping his small hands together.
 Zeed smiles happily.
 Genshu says 
              'you'll still accept ideas on areas correct?' Miko nods.Miko says 'of course'
 Tjalve smiles 
              happily.Tarl says 'always :)'
 Genshu says 'I'll come up with something'
 Genshu sinks deeply into his own thoughts.
 Artagel looks at Genshu.
 Zeed smiles happily.
 Miko says 'ok, 
              with that, this meeting is adjourned' |